You Can Be As Poor As You Want

Having experienced third world poverty, I know that I cannot live the poverty I want here in the US. On the other hand, I can absolutely live the poverty I need.

Having experienced third world poverty, I know that I cannot live the poverty I want here in the US. On the other hand, I can absolutely live the poverty I need.

I have mentioned a number of times that Franciscan poverty, freeing oneself of material possessions in order to identify with the poor Jesus, was a major attraction to me in my discernment; receiving a minor in Poverty Studies and completing an internship at a soup kitchen even before seriously considering the friars should tell a bit about me. I have also mentioned that defining Franciscan poverty has been an 800-year battle among Franciscans; what and how much one should be able to own has been fought over and divided the charism more than a few times.

In response to this (and the problems particular to our province of men in the 21st century), a number of our friars have taken the opinion that a friar “can be as poor as he wants in this province.” What they mean by this is that one’s personal decisions for a simpler lifestyle are one’s own free choice. No one is forcing us to spend any of our stipend, maintain excessive wardrobes, or consume any more food or drink that we want to. Even if others define poverty in an altogether different way and live much more comfortably than one would choose, their decisions, these friars would say, do not affect one’s ability to live poverty how they choose: you can be as poor as you want.

Over the past four years I’ve thought about and struggled to live out this opinion. There is great truth in it: why blame others or “the culture of the friars” for not living poorly enough when I take everything that’s given to me without question? I have been forced (in a very good way) to think about what I’ve been given by the friars and decide if that’s even too much. At times, it has meant giving back part of my stipend, abstaining from food or drink, and refusing gifts. And that helps. But I find that this is only part of the answer. When we choose to live together, whether that be in a Franciscan context, a family, or simply in a larger society, we are never free to do anything and everything we want.

It’s tough to be that poor in America. The broadest example of this is simply living in the United States. Having just spent ten days in one of the poorest countries in the Western Hemisphere, I have now seen real poverty (as compared to the “poverty” we Franciscans live.) I saw houses the size of the bedroom I’m in right now with dirt floors and little-to-no sanitation, teenagers that walk 2 hours each way to get an education, children that had to drop out of school to help support their families, and meals in which a tortilla is the main (or only) item on the menu. Compared to even the poorest in the United States, the average person in Nicaragua has very little.

And yet, there is a great appeal to the simplicity of lifestyle we saw. Sure, they had much less, but their world was not tied to material possessions in the way that ours is. Most of them had very little, but many of them had a sufficient amount, and were happy. It’s no wonder that so many people go on trips like these and have a great desire to change their lives when they come home. Looking at the excesses all around them in the US, people like myself, feel very uncomfortable with all the things they now see as luxuries.

But good luck getting rid of them. What I mean by this is not a cynical take on one’s ability to let go but rather a realization that much of what we have is built into our societal structure. Are we really going to renounce clean drinking water to be in solidarity with our poor brothers and sisters in Nicaragua? Are we really going to throw our toilet paper in the trashcan rather than flushing it to go through some of the hardships they do? Are we really going to turn off our air conditioners AND lobby that every other home and business we visit do the same so that we can experience the relentless heat we knew there? I don’t think so. They’re kind of ridiculous questions, really. But that’s the point. So many of our luxuries are built into our societal structure and are outside of our control. Short of doing these radically ridiculous things, we are not free to live as poorly as we want.

Living together means shared decisions. Bringing this question back to where it started, the Franciscan friary, we can see a similar dynamic. One’s personal decisions can effect the situation to an extent, but are not the only factor in the situation. What if others in the house don’t agree with one’s conception of poverty? What if everyone in the house has a different conception? I may think it inappropriate to ever eat filet mignon as a friar (hypothetical), while others might think it’s appropriate sometimes, and even more think that it’s appropriate often. Does the house eat filet mignon? My personal desires only go so far in community because, believe it or not, there are other personal desires than mine. I would obviously be free to abstain from eating the steak as it is outside of my conception of poverty and no one can force me to eat it. True. I could go make a PB and J sandwich and be completely happy. But look what I have done. I have decided that my personal desire is great enough that I’m willing to remove myself from the group to do my own thing. I have chosen that it is better to be “right” than to be “together.”

And maybe, at times, that’s what we have to do. Everyone can’t be happy all of the time, and I don’t mind abstaining for someone else’s happiness. For one meal, that’s no big deal. But what if it’s every meal? What if it’s every friar outing? What if it is the general life of the friary? I can abstain from eating certain meals, but I cannot abstain from living in a certain house or using certain furniture. Just as in the situation with Nicaragua, there is a clear sense of culture in each friary that cannot be discounted. It is something outside of an individual’s control and has a great effect on their ability to act how they want.

So, can you be as poor as you want as a friar in Holy Name province? No, not at all. And I struggle with that. But it’s a struggle I want to have because I am not called to be a king. I am not called to be right all of the time and to get my way. I am called, as a Franciscan, to a humble life in community in which I have to learn to accept my brothers’ desires as legitimate, to grow outside of myself, and to live with the poverty that I am not in control. Sometimes, as difficult as it may sound, I have to compromise on my own ideals for the sake of community. Does this mean that I’m a fraud, that I’m weak and a hypocrite because I don’t stand up for what I believe? No. It means that, while I will challenge my brothers to a simpler lifestyle when I can, I realized very early in my Franciscan life that we are called to be together, not necessarily always “right.” A big part of being Franciscan is realizing that community life is never going to be exactly how we envision it, but that it is better to be challenged by our brothers than to easily have everything we want on our own. In this way, I know that I could live material poverty better on my own, but it is only in community can experience the poverty of not being in control and having to work with others that are different from you. As a Franciscan in this sense, you can can be as poor as you want.

10 Comments on “You Can Be As Poor As You Want

  1. Yes, the concept of what constitutes poverty is always a question for those who work to follow Francis. But, as you suggest, interpretation can be a matter of time and place and not always a personal decision.
    I watched a movie about Pope Paul VI the other night. It began with Pius XII and the first thing that hit me right between the eyes was the opulence of a Pope’s public visit back then. A huge throne with a 20 ft cape embroidered in gold, huge feathered fans, etc. was all part of the Pope’s image. It looks decadent next to the way Pope Francis makes public appearances. What was expected in the past looks wrong today.
    So we can continue to refine what is poverty. Perhaps that is what we are called to do.
    Janice, OFS

  2. I guess poverty can be shown in different ways by having a lack of ownership and space but I guess Pope Francis showed us as soon as he become Pope. The first outward sign, how trivial it may be – the famous ” red shoes “. Indeed following a different drummer and making a statement as to what will follow……and he hasn’t stopped living the Franciscan poverty, has he ?

  3. Thanks Casey! Your blog was thought provoking and challenging both of which I need.

  4. Thanks for sharing this, Casey! The baseline level of poverty I’ve experienced while abroad challenged me in a similar way, and it’s something that you were able to express in this much better than I could understand it.

  5. Thank you so much Casey! I’m Andrea from Italy, thank you so much for your posts! They’re really helpful for me, I’m going on with my discernment with the Franciscan friars here in the North of Italy 🙂

  6. This was a fascinating essay. Thank you. Along with Dr. Novello & Mr. Catalano, your essay made me think of the Holy Father. I bet he has had many of the thoughts you have expressed here. I also bet that, when elected Pope, he found he also was constrained by the Vatican’s “societal structure.” You are in great company! I believe the Holy Father and his poverty are gifts of the Holy Spirit to our Church.

  7. Hello, I’ve been enjoying your blog for a couple of months now. This was an especially interesting post to me because I think of these same ideas often even though my situation is different from yours. I am married and living in what I’ve heard called a McMansion in MA with my husband and six children. I am rereading the book Happy Are You Poor (Dubay) which is filled with quotes directly from the Gospel and I’ve made very little changes to my lifestyle despite all my thinking about it. The author states in the book that without a serious prayer life, he would expect little in lasting changes. I think this is my main problem. Of course I do not think it is yours. I just wanted to share my thoughts I guess because I appreciate you sharing that you struggle with this. In my life I know a few people who also struggle, but not many.

    • For others struggling with this I can share what happened to me. I became disabled and had to give up my job. For years I suffered putting food on the table, having reliable transportation, and lived without TV or air conditioning out of necessity here in the United States. Spiritually at the time I was immature and resented those who had more than enough. No one ever offered help, not even church, and I suffered a lot. But now I am happy for that time in my life. It changed me for the better. I’m still not well off. But now i’m not food insecure. I have air conditioning, wifi, and a better car. But I struggle less and less with how to live in poverty and now it is a joy. I’m taking sewing lessons to make modest, but well fitting clothes so that I don’t waste money for expensive clothes dictated by capitalism, commercialism, and fashion. I limit trips to town to make my car last longer. I refuse to eat at expensive restaurants with friends or even cheaper restaurants with my husband. I invite friends to fun activities not centered on extravagance. Hubby still eats out but I take a cooler with my lunch, eat it in the car, and sip tea at his table while he eats. He’s ok with that. I tell the waiter I already had dinner. It really saves a lot of money to not eat out, even if it is just one of us dropping the lifestyle. It helps my health to not dine out as a bonus. My friends balked at first but I just tell them it is for my health and a spiritual choice that is personal. I refuse a smart phone, but got an new but old model ipad on sale black friday, only $250. I had a smart phone but I checked it too often when with others so I’m better off without it. So basically, I just slowly downsized as I was spiritually, mentally, physically, and emotionally able. There is a joy and peace that comes with it. I’m not saying so what I do. But each person who wants a simpler lifestyle can choose what works for them. Sometimes we spend because we are pressured by other people. It was hard at first but I learned to say no and no longer resent having to go along with other people’s choices. Now I feel free. When I am with friends and family I enjoy it more than I did before. I didn’t get this way overnight and it is still a journey but a fun one.

  8. Br Casey, thanks for all the quality content here and on YouTube. Inspiring and necessary, and much appreciated. Could you clarify the material situation of a Friar Minor for me in a PM? What does a Friar own, if anything? Can/should/must a Friar have an income from work? Who pays for your clothing and food? Do you have something like spending money? In the buddhist monastic tradition, for example, monks and nuns rely 100% on donations for every single thing they use: robes, meals, housing (if any), medication, etc. How is this for Friars Minor?

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